paul from cleveland

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  People keep sending me messages saying "what happened?"

  by slimboyfat in

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  i am sorry i haven't replied and if it seems rude.

  but people keep asking me what happened and i am not sure what to say.

  thanks for writing anyway.

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  paul from cleveland

  I do hope one day that you feel comfortable sharing why you left. At least the CliffsNotes version. I am curious because you're obviously much more well read that I. Also, you're not a dogmatic black and white thinker. So obviously if you feel it's the truth naturally I'd like to know why. What am I missing? Am I just too stupid to see the obvious?

  I still feel it's possible that Jehovah's Witnesses have the truth. For me it's not a matter of whether or not it's the truth but the character of the person called Jehovah. Does he deserve to be worshipped? If Jehovah's Witnesses have the correct interpretation should I worship a God that couldn't think of a better solution than destroying billions of people and causing all this suffering? I don't like Jehovah.

  I don't know if this helps, but imagine Leolaia doing what you did? Wouldn't you be the least bit curious?
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  About my avatar

  by slimboyfat in

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  questions from readers .

  say, who is that in your avatar slimboyfat?

  from brother i. m. curious, usa.. that's archibald belaney aka grey owl.

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  paul from cleveland

  Talesin, regarding the Grey Owl and Archibald Belaney, I was familar with him before this thread only because I dragged slimboyfat's avatar into Google image search some time ago. I read about his history because I was curious about why slimboyfat would choose that image. I couldn't know about the historical accuracy of what I read though.

  edit: Oops, sorry Talesin, I just noticed the second part of your question wasn't directed toward me.
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  About my avatar

  by slimboyfat in

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  questions from readers .

  say, who is that in your avatar slimboyfat?

  from brother i. m. curious, usa.. that's archibald belaney aka grey owl.

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  paul from cleveland

  Not too far Talesin! A couple hours drive from where I live.
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  About my avatar

  by slimboyfat in

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  questions from readers .

  say, who is that in your avatar slimboyfat?

  from brother i. m. curious, usa.. that's archibald belaney aka grey owl.

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  paul from cleveland

  Oubliette, I like that idea.

  Yes, I'm from Cleveland. The one in Ohio.
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  About my avatar

  by slimboyfat in

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  questions from readers .

  say, who is that in your avatar slimboyfat?

  from brother i. m. curious, usa.. that's archibald belaney aka grey owl.

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  paul from cleveland

  The word "America" is actually part of the official name of the country known as "The United States of America" so it makes sense that when people use the word "America" or "American" they're referring to the "United States of America" or someone from that country. Of course technically everyone from North and South America is "American" just as everyone from Europe is European. If the official name of Canada was something like "Canada of America" I suppose it would make sense to call people from the "United States of America" by another name. What would you like to call us? "United-Statesians"?
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  She sent me 'Return to Jehovah' I sent her a Christmas card

  by Xanthippe in

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  it just felt so good to say to a jw i don't feel the guilt this booklet says i must be feeling.

  i don't feel guilty for having a great big christmas tree or letting my daughter have birthdays, easter eggs, dress up at halloween, have sleepovers and friends, i told her.

  i only feel guilty about not contributing to live aid and bandaid and giving the money to a cult instead.

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  paul from cleveland

  The REAL reason I believe they did away with Christmas was to make sure Witnesses had NO contact with their non-JW relatives.

  Exactly LongHairGal! However, for me, the birthday celebration ban is what truly exposes their motives. There is no real justification for that other than separating you from your non-Witness friends and family. Given that, I'm convinced that's the real reason behind all the other holiday bans too. In my mind, they may have successfully concealed their true motives had they not banned birthday celebrations too.
  
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  Does this make you feel good? Coz it makes me feel bad.....

  by ScottyRex in

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  i just watched this clip on youtube....i can't begin to say how it made me feel.

  , i'm not sure who i am more annoyed about.

  the bloke doing the commentry, the punk shouting at a serious and should be respectful religious event, or some of the youtube comments that follow.. and i find this so disrespectful.

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  paul from cleveland

  I'm learning more and more to wait until I cool off to choose how to react or whether to react at all.

  I'm working on this too. Mainly work related issues. I'm averse to confrontation but some situations bring out a part of myself that I don't like.
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  Does this make you feel good? Coz it makes me feel bad.....

  by ScottyRex in

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  i just watched this clip on youtube....i can't begin to say how it made me feel.

  , i'm not sure who i am more annoyed about.

  the bloke doing the commentry, the punk shouting at a serious and should be respectful religious event, or some of the youtube comments that follow.. and i find this so disrespectful.

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  paul from cleveland

  Magnum, of course you are right and my initial reaction was coming from a place of pain. However, that's not the person I want to be. I have a hard time seeing this objectively as I wrote before. On the other hand, If this happened when I was in the audience as a Witness it would probably made me think. Something similar happened in the congregation I used to attend. A disfellowshipped man came in and tried to yell something out during a meeting. Three brothers physically dragged him out the front door and locked it. I just remember looking back and they were dragging him by the arms while he was yelling. I think they may have called the police. He didn't get a chance to say more than a few sentences. I wasn't offended at all but more curious as to what he had to say. This was before the internet so there was no place to research anything he said... I can't even remember now what it was. Actually, it made for an interesting meeting.
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  Does this make you feel good? Coz it makes me feel bad.....

  by ScottyRex in

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  2. friends

  i just watched this clip on youtube....i can't begin to say how it made me feel.

  , i'm not sure who i am more annoyed about.

  the bloke doing the commentry, the punk shouting at a serious and should be respectful religious event, or some of the youtube comments that follow.. and i find this so disrespectful.

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  paul from cleveland

  I have a hard time being objective about this.
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  People keep sending me messages saying "what happened?"

  by slimboyfat in

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  i am sorry i haven't replied and if it seems rude.

  but people keep asking me what happened and i am not sure what to say.

  thanks for writing anyway.

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  paul from cleveland

  Your posts are my favorite on this forum.